you need to implement auto action for idle players. You know a good rule set for that? great, please share!
besides, I presume that games with auto moves is the same as kicking a player or it will be aborted anyways.

I do not know the game(s) you are referring to, but I believe this does not work for any kind of game.

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In effect, gap1080, that is exactly what happens. With the kick function, via reporting to judges or something else. Except int these cases it doesn't happen arbitrarily.

Constructive criticism is of course always welcome, but maybe you haven't seen enough games to see that effectively - this is already applied through other means, so to say? The problem is, once you start kicking players. The games are often aborted anyway, since this game doesn't lend itself very well to inactive factions.

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"Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum"

As TheWarden stated, kicked players can seriously warp the outcome of a game due to resulting imbalances.
Therefore a majority of the remaining players has to vote for a kick - changing this to an automated process would be a bad idea imo.

Especially in cases like the ones you mentioned, where people already miss their first turn, abort the game and start over is just the better option.
For longer running games that would be a shame to abandon, you can look for a replacement player in the "gaming table" forum section.

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If a player takes no move in 14 days, then game auto aborts.
Is it correct to report a player 2-3 days before this deadline, then ask in the forum to reactivate the game and then with that is the need for replacement player or what are the correct actions to take in what order?
Is kicking even needed when player has quit/inactive for 14 days?

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Aegon's Landing PBF #4 – Targaryen

You should message a player before kicking or reporting, but if you did that then yes you can do so. Earlier too by the way, after a day or two/three sent a message and if still not back after two more (without notice that is) you are fine to kick and ask for replacement.

Kicking shows on their profile and thus wants other MoT's about them basicly. Your choice if you feel that is needed. If younkick early enough re-open is not needed but you can ask for it as long as all players are present, sure.

you are fine to kick and ask for replacement.
Replacement after kick does not yet work reliably. Either kick *or* ask for a replacement. Do not do both yet!

You didn't answer my question. Maybe we are talking about different things.
You suggested a timer (for each move? for the whole game?).
In your opinion, what should happen if this timer runs out?

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My feeling is that players know there games will wait for them. Whats there rush to log on and play there turn. Obviously other waiting players have no affect on them. Give them a reason to play in an expedited manner.
Couple of things:

1) PBEM games are meant to allow 2 days for a move, not 12h (one of your suggestions). So if that is where we disagree, that explains. You just should not expect a PBEM to finish within a week.
2) That has a reason too, people should be allowed a weekend off, have RL stuff to do and not log in for a day, etc. Or heck, think over your move, because it's a though one.
3) Oh and how to do diplomacy? I sometimes stall my move for 12 hours or more if I need to wait for someone to answer me. I need that answer to make my move so have no choice but to wait a while. Diplomacy is a huge part of GoT, you wish to take that out?

4) PBEM games can be relativly fast tough, just host a game and ensure only 'fast' or 'very fast' players join that game, without having any kicks. If you do, my experience is that almost no PBEM aborts and rarely they end up stalling longer then needed.
5) If someone takes over 2-3 days for a move without reason (ie. announcing it, etc.) then send them a message. If they ignore it, kick them. You can do so now, players in a game can regulate the speed of a game.

I just do not see how a timer for the game would help much if it still allows for the whole principle of a PBEM game. I just do not see how the profile speed + kickrate is too little to go on, unless you indeed want PBEM games of under a week and that is not realistic. Go play LIVE then.

Lastly voting to kick players does not work in every case. I have 2 current games that votes have been cast to kick a certain player. But it seems that the numbers to kicks said players have already resounded themselves to the 14 day auto abort and checked out of said games.
True I guess, but my experience is that they do respond if you PM them (not just whisper) on the webiste and send them link to game. Ask them to vote and they generally will.

Also, what I think would help much more is just a reminder e-mail to people (ignoring profile settings, so always sent even if they normally do not get e-mail for games) when they are stalling for 2 days and one more after 7 days. I suspect that to actually help a decent amount if the e-mail is worded correctly (ie. pointing out they could get sanctioned if not playing and such).

It also removes the obligation from players to send a PM to people (which there now is but little people do). And why i think it would work? Because in about 75% of the cases where I as judge sent such a message, people started moving again

I have an unusual situation:
player told in open-chat, that he can't make a move couple of weeks.
That might mean that game might get an auto abort after 2 weeks.
Is it correct to wait those 2 weeks and if game get aborted then ask from Forum to reactivate Game with Replacement player?

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Aegon's Landing PBF #4 – Targaryen

Perhaps an idea to create a /votepause option, majority needed? Every player would find that helpfull (except unwilling losing players maybe) to not get games autoaborted while one player is on vacation.

Could create another thread but reacting on dukenukem's issue here.

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I have an unusual situation:
player told in open-chat, that he can't make a move couple of weeks.
That might mean that game might get an auto abort after 2 weeks.
Is it correct to wait those 2 weeks and if game get aborted then ask from Forum to reactivate Game with Replacement player?
First of all, I agree with Lannie that a Pause option would be very helpful. For the time being, send Duesterwald (admin) a PM when the game needs to be reactivated and ask him to remove the kick for the last player active as he would get an auto-kick from the auto-abort. It's a bit of a workaround, but now the only solution.