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Frode789
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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-02 07:23
Images: https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38404895_10215977136197590_2635364792927256576_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=ecce8d5d4bcfab8bb499abd8e1b23833&oe=5C0942CA

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Mother of Dragons, coming with the Essos sideboard and the Targaryaen faction. 39.95$, 4th quarter release
Also included, official House Arryn bits (to also go with A Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition) – A Feast for Crows.)

#GETHYPED
ajant
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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-02 08:55
poor martell, by the looks of it their already worst starting position just got even worse


Nomaris
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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-02 11:34
Wohoo! That looks awesome. And there are new game mechanics as well it seems.

Edit: Martell has more room to expand now. But I guess Baratheon needs even better diplomacy now with a potential enemy in the East.


QggOne
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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-02 12:29
Cool!

I hope this doesn't end up being a buff to Greyjoy. His main threat in Stark loses the Eyrie.


Dies Irae
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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-02 12:35
Pure speculation on my part, but Bara's gonna know how does it feel to be a Lannister now.
Lannie85
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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-02 12:53
Pure speculation on my part, but Bara's gonna know how does it feel to be a Lannister now.
In the 9 player PBF he also had a hard time as well indeed.

Very nice, could only wish to play that irl someday.


Bjarni
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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-02 15:15
Looking forward to trying this version in PBF

Also, if there is no Arryn playing, is the Eyrie finally impregnable?


Harakon
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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-02 15:22
I see Bronn as Housecard...if a 2nd one are "a bunch of good men with climbing hooks"....he will pentrate that bitch^^


Frode789
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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-02 22:05
Daenerys house card: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjjOtUjUYAAVnBT.png

Arryn Overlay: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjjO16FU8AAkVxq.png
Beornegar
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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-02 22:59
Can't wait, this is an instant auto-buy! But this Arryn overlay confuses me a bit. Are they modifying Westeros board also, or how are they executing changes in Eyrie and Mountais of the Moon?
Harakon
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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-02 23:40
It is a simple lay upon. Like the court track for 4 players or less. You simply place it over those two areas.


Nomaris
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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-03 01:05

Arryn Overlay: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjjO16FU8AAkVxq.png

If they split Eyrie and Vale I would have put the barrel into the Vale. Alternatively, Gulltown would have been nice. But it is a clear enhancement to the original AFFC set up.

I hope it will be possible to play it with less than 8 players as well.


Frode789
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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-03 07:27
Playtest info from someone who was lucky to try the demo!! -->

"Sorry if this is long and unorganized. I’m super exhausted!
I got a chance to play one round of a demo game today at Gencon. It was excellent and I tried to ask everything I could think of.

The expansion seems to include four “modules” although I am not sure that they are all independent of one another.

House Arryn

The simplest is the inclusion of House Arryn, along with all of the pieces, tokens, cards, etc. Not sure if cards are the same as Feast for Crows, but you shouldn’t need Feast (and you could totally use these pieces when playing Feast of course). Also includes an overlay for the vale region which is probably improved.

I assume you can play without Arryn and just leave the overlay out, but I see no reason not to play them if you’ve got them...

House Targaryen

House Targaryen comes with the Essos board (FFG rep said you don’t use the Essos board if nobody plays Targ) and is mechanically a little different than other houses.

First, Targ starts with three dragons. Dragons start at 0 str but every even-numbered round the strength permanently increases by one! In addition, dragons can move to ANY location on the board when they march! Targaryen will likely be an extreme threat late in the game.

Secondly, Targ is ALWAYS in lowest spot in every track, although their spot on King’s Court does grant them some stars (two I think). FFG guy said they can still bid in Clash of Kings and they just add their bid to a house of their choice - it didn’t happen in our game so I don’t know how/when they choose.

Finally, Targ does not score points by controlling castles. Instead, there is a forth Westeros deck. The cards in this deck place loyalty tokens in Westeros (usually someone can influence where it goes, depending on the card text). Targaryen scores by occupying these specific spaces.

Vassal Houses

One of the coolest parts of the expansion. When playing with Vassal houses, you set up every House including those not being played (exception, you don’t use Targ as a vassal - just leave them out if nobody plays them)

The setup for vassals are different than those of player houses (probably stronger since they kind of double as neutral forces, but I think fewer ships - with some vassal houses not getting ships at all I think).

Each round, players would choose vassals in turn order. I think you could pass and get something else, but I’m not sure.

Players in command of a vassal got five neutral tokens they could use for that house, and could not attack their vassal, but could use their vassal to attack other players, support, etc.

Combat involving vassals had players drawing three cards from a deck of neutral house cards, and choosing one.

The vassal houses did not seem to gain power but I assume their controller would be able to muster.

It was unclear in the demo how the vassals are placed on the tracks (if they are at all, and if not, how their turn order works). Because of the nature of the demo, the organizer was just “vassalizing” houses that dropped and also letting people jump in and start playing as them. He mentioned you can vassalize a player house if the player has to leave the game - not sure if it’s “official” but it seems a decent enough rule.

Iron Bank

Finally, the game added an Iron Bank. Players have three additional order tokens that can ONLY function in sea spaces (maybe ports?) Two are regular March and one is a star order with a stack of coins. This is resolved during consolidate power and allows the owner to buy one of three advantage cards priced depending on which spot it’s end.

You’d pay power to get the card, and then keep the card. Every turn you’d have to pay one more power or lose a unit. The cards I saw gave a huge amount of one-time power, a huge amount of figures, and something to allow manipulation of the Westeros decks which I didn’t understand.


Final Thoughts

The vassal idea and the different “scenarios” it can create at different player counts has me very interested.

It’s hard to see what it will do to game balance (especially as I played one round, and the organizer was playing fast and loose and mostly trying to just give people a feel for the game - many of whom never played base game)

My gut feeling is that vassals create huge importance for the iron throne (I think this might be problematic and could probably be handled as a separate bid - potentially even bidding for every vassal individually). This, along with the iron bank, make power tokens tremendously more valuable.

That might bode well for players who want to act diplomatically, protect their borders, and secure power.

The vassal mechanic in general could be very helpful for houses like Lannister (if Greyjoy and/or Tyrell are vassals).

The presence of Targaryen also will potentially shake up the game in the east, with one more naval force battling for the seas.

It’s also possible there are new setups for existing houses to help balance and accommodate for the two new houses , but I’m not sure (I didn’t see any such game materials although there were definitely cards with vassal setup instructions)"

Source: https://boardgamegeek.com/article/29679744#29679744
Beornegar
Battle Commander

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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-03 12:22
It is a simple lay upon. Like the court track for 4 players or less. You simply place it over those two areas.
Ah, of course... I was too exited to even think clearly

This just seems so amazing. It's going to change the game a lot, to even better! I just hope this is playtested enough not turn out total bloober and overpowered Targaryen.
Harakon
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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-03 12:26
It is the same as it will be now.
If everyone knows what they are doing and keep being flexible with their plans, the game is balanced.


Lannie85
Protector Of The Realm

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Topic: It's finally happening: New official expansion for AGOT: Mother of Dragons!
Posted: 2018-Aug-03 12:43
It is the same as it will be now.
If everyone knows what they are doing and keep being flexible with their plans, the game is balanced.

Did you already play it irl Harakon?



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