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PMeisterGeneral
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Topic: House Analysis - Lannister
Posted: 2020-Dec-29 10:42
Lannister are definitely the least forgiving house to play but still really fun. If I were hosting a 6p game in person I'd never let a new player be lannister if there was a decent greyjoy at the table. I would say they have the steepest learning curve of all the houses.


Ser Hodor
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Topic: House Analysis - Lannister
Posted: 2020-Dec-29 16:45
That is certainly true.  However, in skilled hands I'd say Lanni's chances of actually winning are equal if not better to Martell's.  The difference is that Martell tends to lose while still holding 3-4 castles,  but their handicaps are such that even highly skilled players are stuck waiting for favorable winds in the Westeros Phase that may never come, with a more limited set of diplomatic options.


But to bring this back to actual strategizing, when it comes to Martell and Lannister, I have taken to opening every game with either house by asking for alliance with the other.  They have two potential enemies in common, and no real areas to directly compete for.
Necrarch
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Topic: House Analysis - Lannister
Posted: 2020-Dec-29 22:16
Agreed that Lannister and Martell are often natural allies, but helping each other is not that obvious usually, with little contact except the already-too-disputed Reach.

Disagree that Lannister in skilled hands is really playable in general - really depends on the good will of GJ, Bara and Tyrell. Once again, take the stats in Loiaf or World Championship and you'll really see a gap between Lanni / Tyrell and the four others.


Ser Hodor
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Topic: House Analysis - Lannister
Posted: 2020-Dec-30 04:43
All the houses depend on the goodwill of their neighbors, though.  There isn't anyone who holds up just fine against a double team, much less a triple.
PMeisterGeneral
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Topic: House Analysis - Lannister
Posted: 2021-Feb-04 22:07
Ser Hodor lannister are probably the most commonly discussed house with regards to balance changes how would you feel about tywin giving 4 or even 5 or 6 tokens on a win (I doubt it would be broken even then) or them having some way to attack through sea support.

As it stands it is more or less impossible to reclaim lannisport and if you lose lannisport you lose your navy. Every single game you will have either Web of lies or storm of swords and it is hard to:

A) keep up in power generation

B) keep the victarion balon 1-2 combo at bay as no competent greyjoy will honour an alliance if a mislay or westeros cards give him the chance to take golden sound and then lannisport.


PMeisterGeneral
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Topic: House Analysis - Lannister
Posted: 2021-Feb-04 22:54
Also how many world championship games do lannister win?


PhantasticPhil
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Topic: House Analysis - Lannister
Posted: 2021-Feb-04 22:58
how would you feel about tywin giving 4 or even 5 or 6 tokens on a win
wow thats something new and i think it is an amazing idea


Xantipo
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Topic: House Analysis - Lannister
Posted: 2021-Feb-08 21:47
4 tokens for tywin is interesting. But learning to play with weak power generation is key for lanister. Just like being agressive for Gj or getting barrels for Tyrell. Maybe lann can start with the knight and footman in stoney sept and the footman in lannisport. It make sense from the lore perspective becouse Tywin was the first to muster his forces. And it will significant improve lann opening.
Ser Hodor
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Topic: House Analysis - Lannister
Posted: 2021-Feb-09 00:43
3 tokens for Tywin would be an interesting change, but I don't see any reason to go wilder than that.

Another interesting tweak would be to allow Tywin to choose whether to add 2 PT for Lanni or cause the losing house to lose 2 PT.  Would maintain his utility when already at max bankroll, and provide the occasional potential to mess with enemy plans if they suddenly don't have a token to leave behind on their next march.
Xantipo
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Topic: House Analysis - Lannister
Posted: 2021-Feb-09 01:15
If lann have the throne, you can raid bara in cp to secure harrenhall consolidate position. If gj is reliable you can cosolidate in rr and in the port of lannisport. You also have lannisport to muster unit or to consolidate as last choice. Plus tywin. I think lannister is ok in power generation. It is a weak side of the house but it compensate with the supplys. The problem is having a powerful neighbour that can hit you fast and hard at any moment. Gj.
Xantipo
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Topic: House Analysis - Lannister
Posted: 2021-Feb-09 01:18
I prefer to start the game with the footman in lannisport and the knight and footman in stoney sept. You gain lots of options in the opening this way.

Giving my two cents as house lannister. I feel it is almost impossible to defeat gj due to the blade and gj powerful  agressive cards. You can hold him off for sure, but soon bara and tyrell advance for the supply of bw and sm  boxing you in. That is why i suggest this change. Your initial pieces are more active. You are in lesser disadvantage if a muster show up.
Necrarch
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Topic: House Analysis - Lannister
Posted: 2021-Feb-09 10:07
Suggestion noted down in the corresponding thread:

https://www.thronemaster.net/?goto=community&sub=forum&fid=3&tid=77388#top

Xantipo, we are waiting for a 6th player to test a setup here if willing to:

https://www.thronemaster.net/?goto=community&sub=forum&fid=9&tid=78136&token=602250a1#top

Wanna try ?


Xantipo
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Topic: House Analysis - Lannister
Posted: 2021-Feb-09 10:43
Yeah sure.
Ser Hodor
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Topic: House Analysis - Lannister
Posted: 2021-Feb-09 15:43
In my experience, Tyrell goes after GJ more often than Lanni when they come north (to Xantipo's point).
Necrarch
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Topic: House Analysis - Lannister
Posted: 2021-Feb-09 15:49
Agreed.



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