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Strongest_Gallic
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Topic: Differences between 2nd Edition and this version here?!
Posted: 2015-Nov-30 15:50

I was trying to find something in the rules and came on to this:

If, during the Resolve Consolidate Power Orders step of the Action Phase, there are enemy ships in the sea area connected to a port, any Consolidate Power Order assigned to the Port
is removed without effect. Otherwise, a Consolidate Power Order in a Port is resolved normally (as if it was in a land area containing no Power icons).

As far as I know this is not (yet) a feature in the online game?

If I understand well, this would mean in a 6p game that for example the port of storms end is almost useless to martell?

‘Cause Caesar said so…

nils
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Topic: Differences between 2nd Edition and this version here?!
Posted: 2015-Nov-30 16:15

Raiding or supporting from the port of storm ends is usefull for me.

Strongest_Gallic
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Topic: Differences between 2nd Edition and this version here?!
Posted: 2015-Nov-30 16:52

Ofcourse, I misformulated that, but I am right this is a rule only for the board game?

‘Cause Caesar said so…

poncho
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Topic: Differences between 2nd Edition and this version here?!
Posted: 2015-Nov-30 17:13

No, as far as I know this is already implemented on the site. So yes, Martell cannot consolidate in the port of Storm's End if Baratheon has a ship in Shipbreaker Bay.

You probably mean round, not turn. There's a difference.

KronusPL
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Topic: Differences between 2nd Edition and this version here?!
Posted: 2015-Dec-15 09:14

why is player elimination not mentioned here? why is it even implemented?

JM Grip
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Topic: Differences between 2nd Edition and this version here?!
Posted: 2015-Dec-15 11:07

player elimination[...]
why is it even implemented?
There were no PBEM mode in the beginning of this site. And in LIVE games it's makes sense to implement such a thing, because players intent to leave if there is no chance of winning anyway.

- What do we say to New Features? Not Today.

Duesterwald
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Topic: Differences between 2nd Edition and this version here?!
Posted: 2015-Dec-15 11:51

why is player elimination not mentioned here?
Added.

KronusPL
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Topic: Differences between 2nd Edition and this version here?!
Posted: 2015-Dec-15 13:46

I understand player elimination after leaving/being kicked, but I don't understand the reasons for it when all player has left is ships or even no units. There is still power tokens and always a chance his home territory is liberated.

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KronusPL
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Topic: Differences between 2nd Edition and this version here?!
Posted: 2015-Dec-15 13:47

Also please add the player elimination proccess after being kicked - orders changed into defense, land units being neutral forces

Duesterwald
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Topic: Differences between 2nd Edition and this version here?!
Posted: 2015-Dec-15 15:40

@KronusPL: thanks for the suggestion

KronusPL
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Topic: Differences between 2nd Edition and this version here?!
Posted: 2015-Dec-15 20:23

@Duesterwald
If a player gets kicked, all the orders will turn into Defense Orders, and all units become neutral units. The Defense Orders are removed at the next end of turn.
Support Orders change into Def, maybe Marches too, I don't know in what priority.
Consolidate Power Orders don't change - might be relevant info if player is replaced later after initial kick for example.
Also I thought the Def Orders are removed at the end of the same turn - the round after elimination there is no orders placed from eliminated player, is there?

derBleede
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Topic: Differences between 2nd Edition and this version here?!
Posted: 2015-Dec-15 21:22

- the round after elimination there is no orders placed from eliminated player, is there?
no there are not, as your quote says: they are removed at the next end of turn (not at the end of next turn - word order

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KronusPL
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Topic: Differences between 2nd Edition and this version here?!
Posted: 2015-Dec-16 10:15

the word 'next' is therefore obsolete and confusing.

is supporting other players against neutral forces implemented? if not, please mention it

Duesterwald
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Topic: Differences between 2nd Edition and this version here?!
Posted: 2015-Dec-16 10:32

Consolidate Power Orders don't change
How about Raid Orders? Does anyone know?

is supporting other players against neutral forces implemented?
AFAIK it is not implemented yet. Will add it.

Maybe we should have given you edit rights for that post, Kronus

KronusPL
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Topic: Differences between 2nd Edition and this version here?!
Posted: 2015-Dec-16 10:44

haha maybe.

I think Raid orders disappear.

edit:
I reviewed a game where a player was kicked, raid disappeared because it was raided even before the kick, and you were right, CP are also changed into Def order. What I would like to know is what happens when there is Marches, Support and CP orders - are all change to def +1 orders, even though normally you only have 2, or what is the priority?

https://game.thronemaster.net/?review=1&game=62045

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