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sydneygas 58 seconds ago

one more needed

sydneygas 3 minutes ago

3p live is up

D_jaja 3 minutes ago

Silver Den game started

D_jaja 34 minutes ago

2/3

D_jaja 41 minutes ago

3p live up

IronStandsEternal 14 hours ago

3/6p... you are welcome to join

IronStandsEternal 14 hours ago

3/6p

IronStandsEternal 14 hours ago

2/6p

IronStandsEternal 14 hours ago

6p live game is up in case someone wants to play

D_jaja 14 hours ago

2/3

D_jaja 15 hours ago

3p live up

D_jaja 17 hours ago

2/3

D_jaja 17 hours ago

Ok no interest in 6P live, then maybe 3P?

D_jaja 17 hours ago

How much players?

JaqenHghar0 18 hours ago

pbem for beginners?

D_jaja 19 hours ago

Lets try it... 6P live up

smssf 21 hours ago

hostless 3p live

Silver Den 22 hours ago

Legend, thank you very much

Ihor 22 hours ago

Done

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hostless 3o

I could have been an App ;-(



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huntercat
One Of The Kingsguard

Posts: 59
Games: 166
Rank Points: 816
Member since: 2016-Jun-14

Topic: Public game teams based on country/origin
Posted: 2021-Jan-17 18:20
Greetings!

First of all, i quite like the site, having played here for 5 years. I have ran into the following situation, which really has not happened a lot, surely once in half a year, but always leaves a really bad taste in my mouth and makes me want to quit the community.

Joining a public game and forgetting to check the players backgrounds you spawn in the game between 2 or even 3 people from the same country as you(different) and you can quickly deduce who they will eliminate first: the person not from their country.

Last game i played, we had 2 people from country A, 2 people from country B and 5th and 6th person were from differing countries to everyone else. The 5th/6th person were pretty much losing on turn 4 due to getting no help/getting straight ganged up on by the people in the same country. This made the game a 2v2v1v1 as soon as the houses got randomed. Im not saying this happens on the regular, but it really feels like players had no chance in this situation.

Ive never and doubt i can ever play with my countrymen on this site, i know they exist but the chances of running into each other at the same time is astronomically low. So im left with playing 1v2 against people from more populous countries.

Whats the fix? I guess i can only propose to hide countryflags, which is sad because it makes the community feel diverse and is otherwise a cool addition. And even if countryflags got removed, certain people can still easily find each other based on language/username and still team up.

Can someone help me understand if im salty and need to accept this or is it unfair?
Necrarch
Knight of Ni

Posts: 2,038
Games: 135
Rank Points: 1,003
Member since: 2019-Feb-01

Topic: Public game teams based on country/origin
Posted: 2021-Jan-18 10:17
That is definitely an annoying issue indeed, and there is a natural trend to ally more naturally with someone from the same country... that should not exist, I agree with you.

Hiding flags is not really a solution, as you have competitions like the World Cup when this has an actual interest, and lots of people come to know each other - I tend to know most of the French players around, for example, as we are not many -, and you can choose your games, so even hiding would not help.

Besides, countries are far from being equally shared - the Polish community, for example, is very numerous, so you have more likelihood to fall on several Polish people on a game than several Frenchies.

So I tend to agree that it is not fair, but did it happen so many times in your games ? Or is it something that happened a few times, and that is a minor issue ? Honestly, I am not sure to see a solution here, except random draws which are not feasible on a small community like ours.

Would be interested in others' opinion as well.


JM Grip
The 8th God

Posts: 5,236
Games: 92
Rank Points: 686
Member since: 2007-Sep-28

Topic: Public game teams based on country/origin
Posted: 2021-Jan-18 10:30
It really would be sad to remove the country information.
We already removed some stuff due to GPDR.

For anonymous games I can only recommend Faceless games, right now.
Open for other ideas ofc.


Alrich
One Of The Kingsguard

Posts: 112
Games: 102
Rank Points: 849
Member since: 2015-Sep-27

Topic: Public game teams based on country/origin
Posted: 2021-Jan-18 14:43
I don't think removing the flags is a good idea. I think it would backfire.

Now, as it is, we can at least see when different players are from the same country and take precautions against it, either ingame or before the game. With Ser Hodor in a recent game, we did just that.
Without this information, players from the same country (or people that know each others IRL) can ally without noone being the wiser about it.
huntercat
One Of The Kingsguard

Posts: 59
Games: 166
Rank Points: 816
Member since: 2016-Jun-14

Topic: Public game teams based on country/origin
Posted: 2021-Jan-18 19:52
Thanks to everyone for answering!

I absolutely agree that removing country flags is not an option, good points were brought up in defense of it. I think this occurance is quite rare and can be circumvented by checking players locations before game starts, and i can not join games that make me salty, though usually there is one 6p live rated host up and to wait for another one to start can take hours.

Still, site is good.
18HopeCSF
Sword of the Forest

Posts: 244
Games: 586
Rank Points: 3,333
Member since: 2019-Feb-09

Topic: Public game teams based on country/origin
Posted: 2021-Jan-18 20:51
I suggest to use the Blacklist for that kind of behaviour... remember to leave a note for yourself in the blacklist and if anytime in the future that people complain about being blacklisted you can tell them and see if they change the behaviour.

I'd say too that you'd need more than 1 game to be sure if they really are messing up. I have a group of players from my country who I usually end up playing with (Some are very lazy MoTs hahah) and sometimes I ally with them true, but sometimes not. Depends on the game, my day, etc.

Maybe it's shitty people, but if it's just one game it might be coincidence.


Alrich
One Of The Kingsguard

Posts: 112
Games: 102
Rank Points: 849
Member since: 2015-Sep-27

Topic: Public game teams based on country/origin
Posted: 2021-Jan-18 21:11
I suggest to use the Blacklist for that kind of behaviour... remember to leave a note for yourself in the blacklist and if anytime in the future that people complain about being blacklisted you can tell them and see if they change the behaviour.

I'd say too that you'd need more than 1 game to be sure if they really are messing up. I have a group of players from my country who I usually end up playing with (Some are very lazy MoTs hahah) and sometimes I ally with them true, but sometimes not. Depends on the game, my day, etc.

Maybe it's shitty people, but if it's just one game it might be coincidence.

I was spectating his game. The 2 players said in all chat that they allied because of the origin. Their stated reasoning was that it's hard to trust strangers, it's easier to trust people from the same country, so it's natural that they ally together.
Harakon
Grandmaester of Reports

Posts: 3,634
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Member since: 2014-Aug-24

Topic: Public game teams based on country/origin
Posted: 2021-Jan-18 21:22
Where would be the difference to two other Players Who know and Trust each other teaming up?
Got is a game of trust and betrayal. Due to language and culture you are mir likely to trust someone Who shares the Same.
You usually habe two choices: Who to fight and Who to ally.
Why Note ally the gut Who Speaks your language?


Visara
Knight

Posts: 185
Games: 221
Rank Points: 674
Member since: 2016-Jul-10

Topic: Public game teams based on country/origin
Posted: 2021-Jan-19 16:40
I have played a game where I used this 'same country of origin as myself' to make it easier for me to make the other one trust me.
Easy chit chat in your own language
It didn't end well for him


TheReignOfChaos
Battle Commander

Posts: 89
Games: 219
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Member since: 2020-May-28

Topic: Public game teams based on country/origin
Posted: 2021-Jan-22 13:49
I second the suggestion to play faceless!



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