Topic: An Apology
Posted: 2025-May-20 04:42
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I believe this kinda explains clearly what the forum is meant for. As a site and forum moderator I believe Necrarch is well placed to know that politics are a dangerous and divisive subject. Moreover he has the authority to stop the conversation if he feels it’s spiralling out of control. Anyone who cares about this site (or about playing this game on this website) should acknowledge the need to respect the people that keep this place running, especially when they do it in a kind and diplomatic way as they do. Cut them some slack for all the shit they volunteered to deal with so all of us could have a better time. Surpress your personal needs for manifesting your personal ego. If you’re that smart, it will probably show in your game stats 
Be nice to mods, listen to the judges, even if you think they are wrong. Communicate it in a nice way if you really need to, but then: LET IT GO.
As much as I empathise with your need to leave thronemaster, Plumber, whether it’s for your own mental health or out of frustration for dealing with idiots, I will remind you of the fact that you clearly expressed the want to not be part of this community anymore. Therefore, it seems like you are just looking to provoke. If you are really wanting to quit, do it with your head high, with respect for the people who try to keep this place healthy. Resist the urge to make toxic comments to those who supposedly deserve it. You are not making this a better place by doing so. You are just being part of the problem. I believe it’s a wise decision to quit. Sometimes as people we just aren’t able to be as big as we want to. And then it’s better, healthier to walk away. I wish for you that it will teach you strenght for future situations. Because life doesn’t get much easier than having so much time that you can waste it on telling a bunch of people you don’t know and will never meet how and why Trump is actually a reason for optimism.
Also, you are wrong. Trump is no reason for optimism for a LOT of people. Who are you to decide for them that he is/would be? And there is no such thing as natural processes that lead to certain world orders. That kind of fatalism is just another way for not having to take accountability for our actions. As if everything is determined by a higher force anyway. We are able to bend the direction of history. And it starts with (y)ourself.
Mate, first and foremost, let me acknowledge the effort you make to sound diplomatic. I do appeciate every time someone does that, because it is more rare then it should be. Just because we have different opinions, it doesn't mean we should see each other as enemies.
That said, you're confusing ego with just asking questions and the respectful but vigorous demanding of fairness.
You took a good part of your post to talk about several things that have no relation to this thread and to try to defend Necrarch, asking to cut him and the mods some slack and saying that they should have the authority to decide when the conversation is spiraling out of control etc.
However, he or anyone else in the stuff could simply block this thread anytime between now and the creation of the thread, which was almost 10 years ago. And if a thread remains open and visible in the first page of the off-topic session, then it obviously invites new posts.
Plus, it has to be said, you are projecting over me a selective critical rigor, which indicates that you take more issue with me personally then with anything else. And I'm not systematically bullying anyone, I only respond when provoked. And I'm not a mod or an admin. And if you think that mods and admins shouldn't be questioned under no circumstance, that their authority should be supreme and without any type of checks and balances, then let's agree to disagree. As you said it yourself, you are also a site and forum moderator, so I see how and why you would hold such an opinion
It's simply great that the community can eventually count on the voluntary work of someone, preferably people with strong judgments. But clear rules, clearly stablished and in a sense to guide both users and staff is indispensable. Otherwise, mods and admins can just act according to convenience, personal preferrences, can be influenced by enmities and prejudices and then, unfairness follows. No better recipe for a toxic environment.
As for my personal decision about leaving thronemaster, which has nothing to do with this thread (or with you, with all due respect) I don't HAVE to go about it the way you think I should. If I decide that I want to post something in a thread about politics while I wait for the meeting of the necessary conditions for me to erase my account, then that is my decision to make and I'm not really opening that for debate. You're entitled to your opinion, but maybe next time, instead of deviating from the thread subject, consider sending me a direct message to share your thoughts.
Now, going back to the subject of this thread. You certainly is within your rights to have whatever opinion you feel like having. So it's ok if you think I'm wrong. But if I say that, in my opinion, there is margin for optimism, that does not equal to me deciding anything for anyone and it is a large sophism on your side to suggest otherwise.
And yes, there is such a thing as natural processes that lead to certain world orders, and it is better known as the HISTORICAL PROCESS.
If you want to see that explained in finer detail, I suggest you study at least a little bit of Hegel. But to sum it up, it's basically what happened to the Roman Empire, to the British Empire and it is what's going on right now to the U.S. And Trump is clearly speeding things up.
I know that when I say that Trump can be a good thing in that specific sense, that I'm saying something counterintuitive and challenging to the common sense of the well intentioned dilettante. But it is what it is. When we had Obama in the White House for instance, that was a very carismatic leader, with speeches permeated with beautiful values and principles, but who spied half the world and who bombed the living s... out of a whole lot of innocent people.
And the people you're talking about when you say "Trump is no reason for optimism for a LOT of people" are largely the same people who don't give a damn to those other people who were bombed by the handsome and carismatic Obama.
There are a series of agendas related to that kind of problem generated by the Obamas, the Bidens, the Kamalas and the Clintons that are seriously hurt by someone like Trump. And as a citizen from the global south, I reserve myself the right for this particular opinion. I happen to know a thing or two about the problems caused by colonialism and imperialism that a guy like you, with all due respect, knows nothing about.
And I actually lived in Brussels for a while, and I happen to know a lot about the welfare state you live in and how countries like Congo helped paying for it in blood. So with all due respect mate, when you say stuff like "Also, you are wrong. Trump is no reason for optimism for a LOT of people. Who are you to decide for them that he is/would be?", there's a certain self-righteousness to your tone that, respectfully my friend, I even find kind of funny.
All that said, feel free to continue the conversation about politics with me here (if the mods and admins allow the thread to stay open). But if you feel the need to talk about personal stuff, unrelated to the thread, please do it in private.
Cheers.
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