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hernyjj
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Topic: 3 players new Variant
Posted: 2018-Jan-17 14:11
Hi

I came to conclusion that Lannister has too much castels in 3 player game. What about block Flint's Finger and Ironman's bay. I think also that Storm End should be available, but has 5 garnison. What you think?
Harakon
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Topic: 3 players new Variant
Posted: 2018-Jan-17 14:42
So you want to nerf Lannister in the only game Setup in which it has a real winning Chance?

Every House has 4 "home Castles"
Stark: Winterfell, White Harbor, Moat Cailin, Eyrie
Baratheon: Dragonstone, Kings Landing, Cracklaw Point, The Reach
Lannister: Lannisport, Riverrun, Seagard, Flints Fingers

Supply(balanced game) at round 10:
Stark: 6
Lannister: 5-6
Baratheon: 4-5

The only Castle being "vacant" is Harrenhal, which is occupied by Lannister(mostly) or Baratheon.

The Round 10 winning strategy for:
Stark has to occupy either Flints Fingers or Cracklaw Point. This brings him to 5 Castles and together with 6 supply he will win most of the times. With two Siege Engines ready to attack at Castle Black you have both Options.
Baratheon has to occupy at least Harrenhal and hope to have more or even supplies with the rest and win with Tokens or Iron Throne track.
Lannister has to hold on to Flints Fingers and Harrenhal(which should be easy possible with smart Support placing.

By blocking FF and IB you would cripple Lannisters hold onto Seagard and reduce his Castles by one=>making it nearly impossible to win ties.
By making Storms End available you would give Baratheon a free Castle which is impossible to be taken.

The 3p map is the most balanced game variant in theory. The only Problem is the inexperience of Players and not the map/Card Setup.


hernyjj
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Topic: 3 players new Variant
Posted: 2018-Jan-17 16:28
ok but when lannister's ships are in ironman's bay it is very hard to conquer
Harakon
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Topic: 3 players new Variant
Posted: 2018-Jan-17 16:48
Wait for Web of Lies and invade Sunset Sea?

Also: Lannister has 3-4 Ships in Bay with a+1 Support and usually not more than a footman in Flints Fingers. Put a defense order and he has around 7 Combat Strength Before Cards. Put 2 Siege Engines with a +1 march and you have 9 Combat Strength Before Cards.

Planning is the key and while making the right things is required to win the game, a single mistake will cost you the game.


ElPopelos
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Topic: 3 players new Variant
Posted: 2018-Jan-17 20:12
The hing is that youdont need to defend Lannisters ship to win the game.
Stark neds + 3 castles. He can achieve them for example by: taking CCP and Seagard/FF in one round and then just take the missing castle in HH, KL or FF/SG.
He can also invade Bara.

Bara can win by taking DS, KL,CCP, Reach and HH and the simply overrun Lannister remaining landforces.
He can also invade Stark.



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